Hum se Ali bin Ja'd ne bayan kiya, kaha hum ko Shu'bah ne khabar di, unhein Ayub ne, unhein Ibn Sireen ne, unhein Ubaidah ne ke Ali Radi Allahu Anhu ne Iraq walon se kaha ke jis tarah tum pehle faisla kiya karte thay ab bhi kiya karo kyunke mein ikhtilaf ko bura janta hun. Is waqt tak ke sab log jama ho jayein ya mein bhi apne sathiyon (Abu Bakr-o-Umar Radi Allahu Anhuma) ki tarah dunya se chala jaun, Ibn Sireen Rahimahullah kaha karte thay ke aam log (Rawafid) jo Ali Radi Allahu Anhu se riwayaat (Shaikhain ki mukhalifat mein) bayan karte hain woh qatan jhooti hain.